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« on: August 05, 2012, 12:16:29 PM »

Neat sewing box/bag:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320958287461&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 03:37:28 PM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CDV-Card-Victorian-Vintage-Infant-Salem-MA-Revenue-Stamp-Civil-War-Era-/320956655132?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item4aba81e61c

Is the blanket on which this babe lies crochet pattern?
This is a pattern I've seen in my Grandmother's house when I was a kid in the 1960s!
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 06:24:35 PM »

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/CDV-Card-Victorian-Vintage-Infant-Salem-MA-Revenue-Stamp-Civil-War-Era-/320956655132?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item4aba81e61c

Is the blanket on which this babe lies crochet pattern?
This is a pattern I've seen in my Grandmother's house when I was a kid in the 1960s!


I'm actually wondering if it's knit. And if those flowers, which look very dimensional, are some of those many knit flowers there are patterns for. I was hopping for a better look but I was outbid  Sad

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 04:57:35 AM »

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/CDV-Card-Victorian-Vintage-Infant-Salem-MA-Revenue-Stamp-Civil-War-Era-/320956655132?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item4aba81e61c

Is the blanket on which this babe lies crochet pattern?
This is a pattern I've seen in my Grandmother's house when I was a kid in the 1960s!


I'm actually wondering if it's knit. And if those flowers, which look very dimensional, are some of those many knit flowers there are patterns for. I was hopping for a better look but I was outbid  Sad

Beth

Perhaps Tunisian?  That would produce the visible rows and that much border would hold 'em flat.

I adore that baby, waving at us across time....

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2012, 05:21:25 PM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180941169819?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Does the trim added to the bottom of her dress look like mourning crape (crepe?)? Small black collar appears to indicate mourning. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2012, 05:36:06 PM »

 I was under the impression that mourning attire, especially 1st mourning where black collars and crepe were worn, dresses should be a matte black worn with little, or no, trim.
The fabric has a lot of shine and crispness to it, indicating, I think, that it is likely silk.
I'm not sure how to interpret that dark-looking collar frill, anybody have any guesses?

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 05:49:27 PM »

I was under the impression that mourning attire, especially 1st mourning where black collars and crepe were worn, dresses should be a matte black worn with little, or no, trim.
The fabric has a lot of shine and crispness to it, indicating, I think, that it is likely silk.
I'm not sure how to interpret that dark-looking collar frill, anybody have any guesses?

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I didn't think first mourning but maybe second. And that brings me to another question. If a woman is in first mourning, wouldn't having your image struck be the same as Scarlet dancing at the Fair during first mourning? I was under the impression that one does not partake in frivolity during first mourning and I would think having your photo taken would fall under that taboo.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 06:40:51 PM »

I do not see the distinctive diagonal crimp that is one of the characteristics of mourning crepe.  Instead I see a short pile fabric used as trim, most likely a short silk plush.

I've seen the pleated black silk frill at the neck in other images and on a handful of original garments - none of which was mourning attire.

Each of the features of this dress - the fabric, trimming on the sleeve, trim on the skirt, frill at the neckline - as well as the headdress and jewelry all say fashion, not mourning.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 07:49:49 AM »

Unless this is one of those pix taken after Prince Albert died - there was a peculiar form of mourning attire for those showing respect for the Queen's state, but not really being in mourning themselves.  You wanted to wear lots of crepe (if you could afford it), but it was often attached to non mournig gowns.

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