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TerryCoriell
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« on: November 04, 2011, 07:11:08 PM »

Hi all,
I recently received some reproduction china/bisque headed dolls from an 87 year old friend. She has made dolls most of her adult life but her eyesight is failing.
Three of the dolls are bisque/parian fancy hair dolls and I am not sure what time period the hairstyles date from. I would like to dress them appropriately but I am not familiar enough with the dating of these hairstyles.
I know that the colors and painting may not be accurate but please disregard that and let me know what you think of the hairstyles.
thanks in advance.
Terry.

First doll

Second doll


and third doll.
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 07:07:06 AM »

I have no idea as for dating.... I just wanted to say "Wow, beautiful dolls!!" Grin
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TerryCoriell
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 09:31:26 PM »

thank you Jessica! I got a couple China heads from her also, one of them a "Jenny Lind"
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 07:41:03 PM »

The first one has a very 1870's feel to me.  I would place all of them within the final 30 years of the 19th century.
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TerryCoriell
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 12:12:25 AM »

I am doing more research on the actual dolls that were reproduced and may have some more information soon. Thanks for any information that you have provided.
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Donna Rowan
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 07:10:16 PM »

Have been sick all week. Tongue So I just saw this. I'm still looking for 1 and 2 but here is another repro of no. 3 Marie Louise by Alt Beck and Gottschalack http://www.timelessdolls.com/China-Parian-Marie-Louise-Doll.htm I think all 3 are A.B.G. try searching for doll from there co. No 1. I'm not sure I have seen before..or posibly I dont rember her. No 2 I have seen in both parian like yours and china[:ie: that is to say glazed with black hair] They are all totaly beautiful. Your friend is a talented doll artist. And yes 1870s is correct, but the same molds were being used till the 1900s. Some companies were useing the same molds till the 1930s posibly later.[ Sorry for s.p. errors spell check wont come out and play tonight.]
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Gillian
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 11:39:54 AM »

#3 is actually mid-60s, according to Mary Kromholz's "Pictorial Guide to German Chinas"; she has the individual lashes and multi-stroke brows of the earlier ABGs. Your friend has done a beautiful painting job on all three!

Here are the molds for the dolls, not that there's any information on the orginals:

#1: http://www.nydpshopping.com/index.php?p=product&id=3383&parent=16
#2: http://www.nydpshopping.com/index.php?p=product&id=2236&parent=16
#3: http://www.nydpshopping.com/index.php?p=product&id=2241&parent=16
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TerryCoriell
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 07:12:59 PM »

thank you Donna and Gillian,
Gillian, I had also found those pages that you linked to.
I also found this info:


Doll 2
http://dollsetc.net/75-CP_Diedra.html


Doll #3
http://dollsetc.net/75-CP_MarieLoise.html

which include dates and references

However I found no more information on Doll #1 than what your source has.

Thank you for looking and posting the links.

and Donna thank you for the compliment to my friends painting. I got several more dolls from her including a black haired China Jenny Lind (very like the Civility doll) and another slightly larger China head (5 inches tall) that I don't remember the name of.

sorry for the poor quality of the picture.

Terry
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