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« Reply #120 on: April 01, 2010, 04:37:20 PM » |
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The plan is to have the wagon train start in Missouri in April-ish and end in Oregon in October-ish.
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« Reply #121 on: April 01, 2010, 05:21:42 PM » |
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The major trails overlapped & shared routes in Kansas. The Oregon Trail headed quickly north in Nebraska. Routes varied by season as travelers needed grass for livestock & water sources.
The Santa Fe Trail "started" at different points as the population drifted West. A site in the Missouri River near Boonville is among these "starts." New Franklin has since moved up the bluff!
Independence & Westport, now parts of Kansas City, were the major departure points. Mahaffie Stage Stop in Olathe, Kansas is a documented stop still standing. Academy member Iphigenia (Laura) worked there.
Lots of good information on-line and in Kansas City for you.
Captain Marcy's book has information -- lots of period information -- about the various trails.
Hope this helps! Lots of Trail experts on here!
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« Reply #122 on: April 01, 2010, 05:41:57 PM » |
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Ms. Jean has mentioned Independence and Westport (today's Kansas City) as starting points on the Oregon, California and Mormon Trails going west starting in the 1840s. Other departure points along the Missouri River are Fort Leavenworth, Weston, Atchison, St. Joseph (a major starting point), Old Fort Kearney/Nebraska City, and Council Bluffs (on the east side of the river, crossing to today's Omaha). The latter was also a major starting point.
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« Reply #123 on: April 01, 2010, 06:46:48 PM » |
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Thanks, Muriel! (Brooke -- Muriel is a Trail Expert. I am an Expert Soccer Mom who likes to follow the Santa Fe Trail.)
Travelers had to cross the Missouri River. All the named locations could either be forded or ferried or both. No bridges at the time! Sometimes you could cross on the ice....
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« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2010, 12:09:27 PM » |
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My wagon train is planning on starting at the official starting point and ending at the official end. As others have stated, there were as many starting points as there were pioneers, and almost as many jumping off points it seems. Independence, Missouri is the official beginning of the Oregon Trail and Oregon City is the official end. Of course the beginning of YOUR trail would be your house, and the end of YOUR trail would be where you chose to settle, but Independence was chosen for the official beginning because it was one of the first major jumping off points (other towns took over in popularity later) and Oregon City was chosen as the official end because that's where you had to go to make your land claim legal.
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« Reply #125 on: April 05, 2010, 12:04:19 PM » |
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I have already asked mom to go to too many far away events, plus I dont think mom could make to the Wagons Ho. Looks like a great event thru.  And "In the Van", we already have plans that week:( Thanks for the dates of this OR trail trip! Allyson |
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« Reply #126 on: September 16, 2011, 07:07:56 AM » |
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Thanks, Muriel! (Brooke -- Muriel is a Trail Expert. I am an Expert Soccer Mom who likes to follow the Santa Fe Trail.)
Travelers had to cross the Missouri River. All the named locations could either be forded or ferried or both. No bridges at the time! Sometimes you could cross on the ice....
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« Reply #127 on: September 16, 2011, 07:54:26 AM » |
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Heidi - Any updates on this trip? Of course, life is a bit different for you now than it was when you first proposed it  and it wouldn't be a shock to hear it had been "indefinitely postponed" Joanna |
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« Reply #128 on: September 17, 2011, 05:13:33 AM » |
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Would you like to go on a road trip of the Santa Fe Trail? I know I would!
Cindy
Oh absolutely! In Kansas City, Highway 56 is considered the Santa Fe Trail route, closest you can get. My Dad has followed the Trail westbound with his camper. Council Grove, Kansas is considered a prime site with the Mahaffie Stage Stop. You can pick from The Wet Route and The Dry Route. The end in Santa Fe is the early town square, great bakery in La Fonda, The Inn At The End of the Santa Fe Trail. Looks like this from a webcam: http://www.santafeinformation.com/(Route 66 only passes through Santa Fe because of a desperate act by a lame-duck governor to do something while in office....) Jean Route 66 |
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« Reply #129 on: September 26, 2011, 10:45:01 AM » |
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Wow... So late in replying here... Just now got internet at the new house, though we have been here over a month and a half. Yes. I still want to do this. It will probably be a little postponed due to the twins, and I still need a strategy, but it has not been put in the indefinitely postponed category just yet. I got a lead yesterday that might prove useful to the cause. If I can figure out how to start it will be much easier to get going. |
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« Reply #130 on: September 26, 2011, 12:03:20 PM » |
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Hi Heidi - it's so good to hear from you. I think we all thought that you were just a tad busy with the babies and your move. Photos of you and the twins at the Fort Nisqually event were posted on the Western Region ALHFAM Facebook page by Peggy at Ft. Nisqually along with photos of the event. I would think that all of us here would like some photos of the babies in their historical outfits, and you too . Muriel |
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« Reply #131 on: September 26, 2011, 06:06:39 PM » |
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Thanks, Heidi! Good to hear from you. Perhaps by the time this materializes my 9 yo will have decided that history isn't bo-ring! any more and will want to come (sniff sniff- this is the little baby who came to his first event when he was a month old, who was just so darn cute in dresses at 3 years old! sniff sniff)
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« Reply #132 on: September 27, 2011, 04:51:33 AM » |
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Thanks, Heidi! Good to hear from you. Perhaps by the time this materializes my 9 yo will have decided that history isn't bo-ring! any more and will want to come (sniff sniff- this is the little baby who came to his first event when he was a month old, who was just so darn cute in dresses at 3 years old! sniff sniff)
Haven't you apprenticed him to a shepherd by now??? He really showed skill in that video -- can you share the link again? Jean Route 66 |
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« Reply #133 on: September 27, 2011, 07:26:05 AM » |
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If the trip was at the right time and wasn't too expensive, I would love to experience what this "felt" like for real....not just in the car.
Cindy
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« Reply #134 on: September 27, 2011, 05:59:45 PM » |
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Jean, I can't believe you remember that video! No, alas, he's completely into Star Wars now. Not the worst thing in the world but.....  |
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« Reply #135 on: September 28, 2011, 05:10:17 AM » |
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Jean, I can't believe you remember that video! No, alas, he's completely into Star Wars now. Not the worst thing in the world but..... Sent you a PM re: Star Wars. Currently, I'm still up for gathering a Honda full of people in Kansas City & providing support, returning one-weekers to cars & airports, hiding the car & offering water for animals in my beat-up Work Dress (Very Plain.) So keep us all posted, we share your dream! Jean Route 66 |
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« Reply #136 on: September 28, 2011, 04:35:43 PM » |
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I am so up for this. I have this fantasy about being someone returning east that the wagon train can encounter. I am very good at pretending to be put-upon!
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