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« on: May 08, 2007, 06:03:37 AM »

It turns out fitting a doll is nothing like fitting a person.

My biggest current problem is the arms. May's china forearms are thick enough. But her upper arms are very thick, disproportionatly so. But, her shoulder area is reletively non-exsitant. It almost seems like some of her arm stuffing has settled into the lower bicept and elbow area rather that in the upper bicept area. Is this possible? If so, should I try to move some of the stuffing somehow? If not, any fitting advice? Right now here disappointing chemise has huge armscyes (and I had to remove the sleeves in order to be able to get it on.) Her wash dress (to be made from my favorite plaid pajama pants that have finally died) can have bishop sleeves. Her coat can have an open sleeve. But, I would rather her nicer dress (tbd) have a shaped coat sleeve. Fitted is likely out. 

The other problem is the drawers. Um, help.

What about the chemise and corset making a nicer line over where her china shoulders meet her cloth body. Any suggestions?

Closures are perplexing me as well. Do they make tiny hooks and eyes? I think I can find tiny buttons. I just have to figure out how to make tiny holes.

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2007, 06:53:07 AM »

I've been wondering about closures myself, for the cloth doll I'm doing.  All I could come up with is I might have to sew her into her dress.  The other stuff fits snugly enough that it doesn't fall off, but the dress doesn't pull over her head properly so I had to make a conventional opening down the front.

Not planning to dress her much so I guess sewing her in is acceptable, but it'd be nice to have other options.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2007, 07:05:30 AM »

Anna, Did you get you doll from Elizabeth? If so, she may have  some kind of upper arm deformity, as mine has a fairly uniform shoulder to mid forarm shape/size.

Rebekah, I made a cloth doll for a CW auction, from underpinnings out. Her corset had tiny eyelets and I used size 0 hooks and thread loops on everything else, she was supposed to be 16 and this was her first front opening dress.

Forgot to say that her drawers were made using Elisabeth's instructions and they came out perfect. Now I need to try them for myself.

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2007, 08:44:33 AM »

My doll was my Grandma's doll. She's about the same size as Civility. She does post date the war by a bit (can't recall exactly at the moment.)

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2007, 12:19:08 PM »

She may have a sawdust filling, Anna--some originals do, and it does tend to settle, as will wool, cotton, and kapok over time.  You can try to move the stuffing around, which can be hard on the original body textile, or you can just work around the issue--making a puffed sleeve can help "bulk out" the shoulder area, and you can set it onto a band that can slip over the chunkier bicep area.

Can you share an image of Mae's nekkid body?  I can be more helpful with fitting suggestions for drawers that way.  Though if you use millimeters to measure, you can actually scale down the free split drawers pattern and accomodate some of the more odd mid-century doll bodies (which can be VERY distorted, with extremely "German" thighs and hips. Smiley )

Closures: small hooks with thread bars work well, as do hooks with thread eyelets (sewn holes in the weave of the fabric); buttons can be difficult, though they are used on some original doll clothing.  Another period option with doll clothing is a hook/eye/eyelet as the functional closure, with a button or faux button placed on top decoratively.

To make the tiny holes a bit easier, outline the hole with a single thread, two or three times (tiny hand running stitch.)  Work the buttonhole stitches with a single thread, and take your time. I've also successfully marked and worked a hole without opening it--using very tiny applique scissors to slice open the hole between the two purled edges when finished.  It's fussy work, but *can* have a good result.  Personally, I prefer to outline, open, and work, in that order, using a single strand of waxed thread.  If you're working with fabric light enough to do for doll clothes, sometimes it's too light to take a buttonhole well; in that case, I lay a scrap of cotton organdy under the hole, work through it as though it were not there, and trim it away after stitching.  It's a permanent, but very light, stabilizer.


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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2007, 01:13:11 PM »

Could you pad her shoulders with a small improver?
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2007, 04:39:53 AM »

I will take some pictures of her to post.

Settled stuffing does seem to be some of the trouble. I did some squeezing of her arms last night to get them into a little better shape. It seems to have worked a little because I was able to make the armscye on her trial dress a little smaller. (I have decide the wash dress is a trial outfit for her to see how things fit. When I figure everything out, I will go back and make her a better set.)

I do think the drawers pattern is going to look exagerated to say the least.

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 04:21:50 AM »

I finally got around to taking pictures of Mae.

This is the picture of her waist and hips. How should I design the drawers?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/Deliagodric/Mae/Maehelpwithdrawers.jpg

Here are two pictures of her current underpinnings. The chemise need sleeves again. It had them. Then lost them when I tried to put it on her. I think I have the sleeve shape figured out now that I did the trial dress. As you can see I goofed on petticoat lengths. The under petticoat (of a bad left-over fabric) is longer than her corded petticoat. The lace trim on the corded petticoat is covering a mistake that I couldn't get the stitches out of. Lesson learned - Never try to sew while watching a disturbing episode of Oprah. She will be getting an new underpetticoat out of better fabric and an over petticoat. I like the fullness of the underpetticoat because it helps her sit up. It just needs to be shorter.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/Deliagodric/Mae/MaePetticoats2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/Deliagodric/Mae/Maepetticoats.jpg

Here is her trial dress as it is now. It needs several things. First - better, smaller hooks. I used what I had. They are only tacked in. I want to find tiny hooks or make some teeny-tiny ones out of jewelry wire. I also need to decide on her sleeves. Originally, I planned on encasing the wrists in cuff. But, with the trouble I am having with the closures, I am considering either shaping them to a cuff just big enough to go over her hands or to leave them open. She also needs all her personal linens for this dress. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/Deliagodric/Mae/Maebluedress2.jpg

After I figure out the rest of her underpinnings and the rest of this dress, I want to make her a silk dress from some left-over fabric, if I have enough. If not, some dress recycling may be in order. Then will come some outerwear and accesories.

I want to do a photo journey like Trish did with Civility.
Trish, any hints on getting the angles right for the picture where Civility appeared bigger than the background?

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 07:04:02 AM »

Anna, check out Elizabeth's instructions for drawers. I used them for a cloth doll and they turned out great. Your doll and clothes look so pretty.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 07:11:38 AM »

I'll give the drawers directions another try. That's what I tried before but I must have done something wrong with the math because they didn't work at all.

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 07:47:09 AM »

Try it in centimeters, and oversize it slightly.  Or, just drape the leg/thigh/waist for the base shape, and then move that away from a fold of fabric to create more fullness.  I'll post sketches tonight or tomorrow--I'll be running around like a chicken with my head cut off today, getting David and the two oldest off on a camping trip. 
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