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« on: January 06, 2011, 01:43:03 AM »

So...my BF wants me to make a shirt for him. In the picture below, it's the one of the far right-hand side (solid red). I have no clue where to find a pattern to make something like it. Please help!

Oh, and please ignore the inaccuracy of my dress...it was the first gown I ever purchased, and obviously, it wasn't even close!

Thanks a ton. I searched the site, with no avail.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35803462@N07/5329782104/

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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 03:06:38 AM »


  "Battleshirt" may seem like a cooler name for it, but in reality it's nothing more than a lightweight wool overshirt which can be worn tucked or un-tucked. It was the casual equivalent to wearing a sweatshoirt over a regular shirt today on a crisp, fall or spring day where it's too cool to wear a shirt alone, but too warm to wear a coat.

   I lack the terminology to describe it (and will leave those in the construction know) but I think it's just a larger version of a typical men's shirt.  They also came in other colors besides red, in case you want to shoot for some variety.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 04:22:34 AM »

So...my BF wants me to make a shirt for him. In the picture below, it's the one of the far right-hand side (solid red). I have no clue where to find a pattern to make something like it. Please help!

Oh, and please ignore the inaccuracy of my dress...it was the first gown I ever purchased, and obviously, it wasn't even close!

Thanks a ton. I searched the site, with no avail.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35803462@N07/5329782104/



This link may provide a description of a shirt close to what you might be looking for:

http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?29900-October-Bully-Buy-Battleshirt-Kit-from-Wambaugh-amp-White&p=188718#post188718

I'm not sure if they will sell patterns, but you might want to inquire.
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 07:26:40 AM »

Try this thread: http://thesewingacademy.org/index.php?topic=2506.0
This one: http://thesewingacademy.org/index.php?topic=4404.0 has lots of pics, and about halfway down is a link I posted of a Facebook album showing my DH & a friend in their overshirts
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2011, 02:18:18 AM »

Thanks everyone! I'm glad to finally have an idea of what kind of shirt it is. My BF only knew it as a battleshirt, but I'm feeling much better now, because I was certain it must of had a different name. Thanks. I'll definitely be making one up soon.  Grin

Does it matter if it has the slanted pockets on the outside? I didn't see any examples with pockets. (But, I was unable to access the facebook pictures, because I'm at work.) I was just curious, if historically they ever appeared?

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2011, 03:17:52 AM »

So far I have not seen any slanted pockets on overshirts.  They seem to have either outside pockets (as in, you can see the pocket attached to the shirt) or they are an inside pocket (as in, there appears to be a reinforced slit on the shirt, with the pocket itself on the inside).  In both cases the pockets are horizontal.

Unfortunately I don't know where to find any original shirts to look at.   Sad

ETA:  You'll have to take this with lots of salt, as it's "I heard about this around the campfire" source:  Once the War broke out a lot of the local militia companies that formed took a while to acquire uniforms, or opted not to have fancy uniforms tailored for them.  Some of them had the gals apply martial-looking twill? tape to the collar, cuffs, around the placket, and the edges of exterior pockets of their overshirts to look more "military".  Or they might embroider around those edges instead, and maybe embroider or attach stars to the collars.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2011, 07:30:57 AM »

http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/ParasolQueen/Civilian%20Men/  This is my photobucket of the Civilian male clothing.

This is one of the pics.  Both shirts have 2 patch pockets on the chest.http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee86/ParasolQueen/Civilian%20Men/100_2283.jpg[/img]]
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2011, 08:49:41 AM »

As with other military items, consult "Echos of Glory" (Union edition- pgs. 126& 169, Confederate edition- pgs. 93& 154), "Uniforms of the American Civil War" by Field & Smith (pgs. 171, 174, 177, 183, 201, 212, 225, 226, 227, 228, 233, 245 & 251)

Most of these shirts are depicted with pockets, either patch pockets or welt pockets. A photographic example can be found for most states of the Confederacy. You should check (or have him check and carefully notate) the exact needs of his particular unit, troop, or battery.


In civilian examples, the reproduced example from the Steamboat Arabia has welt pockets, on a slant. Several photographs of men in over-shirts include pockets, though I'd need to look around for the exact shirts I'm referencing. ("Firemen" shirts and some popular with the Miners 49-ers come to immediate mind)

For a decent "Shirt on the Square" pattern, try the "Work Woman's Guide to Plain Sewing" (it's available on Google Books and frequently referenced here), "Thoughts on Men's Shirts in America" (which is a fabulous basic book on shirts of all sorts), or the Martha McCain Fashion Historian pattern (out of print, but often found on ebay and pattern re-sale websites).


...and let's wrap up the discussion of a military item before we get a polite reminder about the focus of this forum.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 06:48:31 PM »

Thanks again.

I'm overwhelmed at the response, and the help that I have received.  Grin

Thank you a thousand times over!

Blessings,
Kristen  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 09:22:48 PM »

I'm sorry too add to this so late...but quick question since I am making a few of these for my gentleman friend's unit as well.

I know what weight wool these should be made out of too the touch...but what is the weight actually called?  Suit weight?  Medium Weight?  etc...?

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 09:44:27 PM »

I like to use flannel weight wool for mine, but we use them for warmth as well. Suit weight will be too light unless it is very warm where you are.
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