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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2010, 09:07:02 AM »

No, NO, NO!!! So I look at the program list for our library today, and on February 5, we have "Secret Messages in Quilts"....this will never die, will it?

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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2010, 11:14:29 PM »

Yikes! Who approved that program? Can we have them ceremonially Snooded? Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2010, 04:47:47 AM »

Yikes! Who approved that program? Can we have them ceremonially Snooded? Smiley

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« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2010, 04:53:35 AM »

Since the program is so far in the future, do you think they would be amenable to some information about the truth?  Librarians should be interested in facts, I would think.
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« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2010, 10:41:11 AM »

Librarians usually are interested in truth.  But sometimes they get programs forced upon them by administrations.  I remember one local librarian who wanted me to do a fall program, but was overruled by her superiors who wanted another program - a lady (who is equally as blond as I) portraying an "Indian Princess".  I can still see my librarian friend's eyes rolling and body shuddering as she said those words.  Shocked
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« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2010, 10:01:31 AM »

Librarians usually are interested in truth.  But sometimes they get programs forced upon them by administrations.

And that is exactly what happened here....one of our PR people must have booked this, because if they had asked me I'd have given them not only an earful, but also an armful....of the reputable historians/quilt historians who have "debunked" this.....I do plan on going over to PR and taking them some of that and asking if there is any way to have those books on display with the "pro"....particularly some of the children's books that have come out in the last few years......it just never stops, does it?

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« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2010, 04:29:13 PM »

I got really nervous at Fan Club this morning. (A marketing thing) One of the Library reps and a quilt woman were talking. Luckily they were talking about the Battan Death March instead of quilts. Whew.
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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2011, 10:01:15 AM »

Nice article looks at  research for URR quilts-
     http://www.fabrics.net/joan507.asp
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2011, 10:35:04 AM »

Stephanie, thank you so much for sharing this article! I just shared it with my school district's communications department, and encouraged them to share it with any schools they see perpetuating this myth.

I'm sickened by what I'm reading. This is ridiculous.

Thank you!!!
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« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2011, 02:43:17 PM »

The longer, booklet length article is the best...she gives the link to it there: http://www.ugrrquilt.hartcottagequilts.com/ It gives the full research.

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« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2011, 03:20:18 PM »

I like her FAQ sheet. I'm tempted to post it in my office....  Cheesy
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« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2011, 09:30:41 PM »

Thank you for the links.  I will forward them on if this subject is brought up again on a quilting board that I'm on.

The "code" was discussed there with about half believing it was true & refusing to hear any contradicting evidence.  (this is one of those myths that will never die...)
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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2011, 12:16:14 PM »

New update on how this one will NEVER die.  On another board today, a member asked about these because " I have a university instructor who would like me to make some up and show them in their class next year."

I'm going to ignore the thread on that board because most of the folks there really believe the URR quilt is true despite the link I posted (from here)....
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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2011, 01:54:30 PM »

"A glance at the lengthy bibliography
suggests that research was substantial - until the reader discovers the
authors refer to only a quarter of those sources, and three are
children's books. The remainder includes more juvenile literature,
poetry, and an adult "nonfiction" book claiming that the earth was
populated by extraterrestrials."

Really? They sited a nonfiction book claiming that the earth was
populated by extraterrestrials as "evidence"Huh!!!

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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2011, 08:27:09 PM »

A much more interesting program would be to discuss the *actual* stories of enslaved Americans and textiles, wouldn't it? No mythology required.
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2011, 06:07:55 AM »

   My 8th grader just came home with the quilt story, said article x3 went to school.  The original story of the URR quilts came from SC. but having visited there, I would say the  African culture maintained in that area is just plain amazing. Many Africans were out on the islands off the coast and maintained much of their culture in these enforced close knit groups. There is really so much more to choose from when teaching children.
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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2011, 11:42:20 AM »

Last year, while I was visiting my local sewing store, one of the instructors who knows I reenact told me that they were going to offer an URQ class - was I interested? After giving her a probably way too long spiel about how there is absolutely no evidence for them, she very seriously said "Well, just because there is no evidence doesn't mean that they didn't exist."

HUH?Huh?
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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2011, 01:20:50 PM »

It's the whole "you can't prove a negative" fallacy of thinking.

Welcome to the shady world of conspiracy-style rationalizing.
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« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2011, 07:40:45 AM »

And the myth goes on...

http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2011/jul/25/african-americans-express-mixed-feelings-over-civi-ar-1195479/

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