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« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2007, 09:24:30 PM »

Bill, darling, breathe.  Smiley  I swear I didn't hear one single break for breath in those two paragraphs.

Okay.

First thing: what sorts of event scenarios do you anticipate in the coming two years?  No point working up a huge back story if it's not going to be useful for your events.  Most history-heavy events will have room for a range of impressions, but I would encourage you (and Sister Bill) to work on something middle-of-the-road so she can jazz it up for higher things, and tone it down for lower.  That's generally more flexible than one static role, and will allow maximum event participation.

5'11" is a tall girl.  In order to keep from looking like Alice After The Mushrooms, her cage is going to need to balance with her figure; it may need to be a bit larger than 90" for a good finished look.  Nice starched petticoats will help fill things out for balance, too.

A cotton wash dress is useful for many things; keep that in the wardrobe.  She can use it as a "dressed down" style for middle class or upper working class impressions, and as a normal everyday dress for active working class impressions, as the event calls for them.  The sleeve style should be just fine with her age (it's fashionable, and 15 tends to pull toward fashion), though you could absolutely cut it into a short puffed sleeve if she's interested in something cool and comfortable for summer use.  Not every dress has to be a year-round dress, after all.

Do you have enough of the windowpane to do a full dress out of?  A nice white sheer would be ideal for a summer dress, or even a fall/winter/spring party dress, so she could get a lot of use out of one, and it lends itself nicely to colored silk waists, sashes, etc.  Anna Allen has a lovely waist (Swiss waist is another term you'll see) that she's worn with several fine dresses, and it's a great accessory for changing the look of a sheer white windowpane dress.

If you don't have enough windowpane for a dress, may I encourage you to do the skirts in silk taffeta, and reserve the tropical wool for a dress all its own?  Silk has a look to it that just hollers "Gosh, I did up this ensemble RIGHT." 

Keep in mind there are bits of a middle and upper class wardrobe you'll have to come up with, too: fashion bonnets and a parasol among them.  And shoes/boots... something fashionable, not utilitarian.

I've probably just added more questions into the mix.  Smiley  Feel free to continue this thread, or start a new one as you see fit!
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« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2007, 10:50:07 PM »

I do not currently have enough white for a dress, plus I can for see major issues with an all white gown(dirt like whoa).  My original intent was to do a silk skirt with the blouse, but I shy away from it due to the fact that the majority of our events are outdoor.  We will be going to many battle reenactments.  I was drawn to the wearability of the wool, as a very easy care fabric, in a nice color that wont show dirt as much.  Sorry for the explosion of questions, I was suddenly struck with, "what the heck I will ask all my questions at once before Ido anything more".  Regarding the background information, I think Bevin and I were just having fun making up stories.


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« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2007, 11:26:05 PM »

  If your father is "well off" would you be taking in laundry and sewing in addition to the cares of the men and the farm? 

 Are you still in school?



ok I'm officially really bad at wording my thoughts !!
what I meant by well off is not dirt poor we can afford a few luxury's think Ingalls but not Olson's  Wink
and no I'm not in school
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« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2007, 11:28:49 PM »

oops I forgot to say what I meant by " taking in extra work " !  Smiley I mean like mending sewing like a sock here a mend there for the laborers at Fort Nisqually. so not really that much ! 
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« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2007, 06:48:25 AM »

Lydia, that helps.  Okay, so normal working class farm family, only with just Dad and the kids, and you're the oldest female in the house?  For that, I could see you making the transition to front-fastening bodices for convenience in dressing (it's quite possible to get in and out of your corsets/stays alone), and keeping "active" length skirts, which fall just above the ankle by a few inches.  Which also coincides with "youthful" skirts. Smiley  Handy that way, isn't it?  For your best dress, you could go either way with dresses: either stick to a youthful style (giving you open necklines, shorter skirts, and short sleeves for daytime summer use) or go with adult details (high neckline, long sleeve) on youthful skirts.  I'd go ahead and plan "full length" skirts and bring them up to "active" length with tucks for a spot of decoration, added body at the hem, and as a hedge against future growth--many women continue to grow into their very early 20s these days, so you may have some height to add.

Bill, I'd save the white windowpane back for a bit, and make a good wool dress (one piece) with some interesting trim, since the majority of the events she'll attend will be more "smorgasboard" events, and outdoor.  General rule: if there are scheduled skirmishes, there is often not an actual scenario that covers the whole event, and people are quite free to do various impression presentations in living history areas, without regard for making sure every speck of it coordinates "real time" with military action, or one another.

You're on a good track asking questions to pinpoint plans and needs before you start cutting.  I just want to make sure you're actually breathing at commas and periods, so you don't pass out on us.  A seamster brother is too rare a thing to lose.

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« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2007, 06:59:39 AM »

I know this doesnt really belong on this thread but how is this for a wool dress, its the wool I was looking at for the skirt of the blouse ensemble.  I could do the sleeves on the bias Smiley maybe somthing with a nice white undersleeve.  hmmmmm wait! no! stop!  no more projects untill I finish the costumes for the show!!!!  The costumer Im working under is demanding them by the end of the week.... we will see about that Tongue





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« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2007, 06:57:44 PM »

Lydia, that helps.  Okay, so normal working class farm family, only with just Dad and the kids, and you're the oldest female in the house?  For that, I could see you making the transition to front-fastening bodices for convenience in dressing (it's quite possible to get in and out of your corsets/stays alone), and keeping "active" length skirts, which fall just above the ankle by a few inches.  Which also coincides with "youthful" skirts. Smiley  Handy that way, isn't it?  For your best dress, you could go either way with dresses: either stick to a youthful style (giving you open necklines, shorter skirts, and short sleeves for daytime summer use) or go with adult details (high neckline, long sleeve) on youthful skirts.  I'd go ahead and plan "full length" skirts and bring them up to "active" length with tucks for a spot of decoration, added body at the hem, and as a hedge against future growth--many women continue to grow into their very early 20s these days, so you may have some height to add.



Thanks so much ! what you said to do is basically what my dress is now !! YAY I don't have to change it !!  Wink
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