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dulciewhite
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« on: December 14, 2007, 07:04:53 AM »

Anyone have someplace in particulat they would recommend? Im in a desperate search for some. Thank you!
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 07:58:02 AM »

What about Ben Tart?  He has a website, I just wish I could have permission to see his dyeing.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 08:15:49 AM »

Have you checked with Needle and Thread, Charlie Childs and/or Ben Tart?
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 09:54:34 AM »

William booth and draper always has a bit in stock, though colors are not true on the monitors, my customers say.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 09:44:43 AM »

Years ago I asked Rabbit Goodey of Thistle Hill Weavers for "mixed blue wool jeancloth" as was used in the 1840's military uniform. She had it in stock, and while it wasn't exactly cheap, it was truly wonderful stuff!

http://www.thistlehillweavers.com/

You may have to call for prices and availability.

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 08:07:38 PM »

Years ago I asked Rabbit Goodey of Thistle Hill Weavers for "mixed blue wool jeancloth" as was used in the 1840's military uniform.

Ok, now I'm curious.  What is this stuff, and which nation used jeancloth for military uniforms in the 1840's? 
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2007, 08:29:59 AM »

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Ok, now I'm curious.  What is this stuff, and which nation used jeancloth for military uniforms in the 1840's?

Phil: That Country would be the United States. If I recall correctly, the reference came from "My Confessions" by Samuel Chamberlain*.  Chamberlain was in an Alton IL. militia company on the eve of the Mexican War and describes his coat as being made of "mixed blue Kentucky Wool Jean". Mixed blue combines indigo blue dyed warps with undyed weaves to produce a fabric that looks something like a pair of modern faded blue jeans. It's very easy to handsew, but all raw edges are in serious need of whipping.

*Chamberlain's diary was discovered in an attic in the 1950's, and sadly only reprinted once. My copy was lent into oblivion, and so I cannot provide the footnotes. John Eisenhower's "So Far From God" references Chamberlain, but my copy of that was also lent. Angry

Here's a website dedicated to Chamberlain's diary...

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/supsites/chamber/

Chamberlain may have exaggerated his tales of daring-do, but I take his uniform description to be reliable. -Tom
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2007, 03:52:09 PM »

Ah, ok.  A volunteer uniform.  That makes much more sense!  Your first post made me think that someone believed that the US issue military uniforms of the  1840's were jean rather than kersey.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 07:26:24 AM »

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Ah, ok.  A volunteer uniform.  That makes much more sense!...

Phil:
Glad that's all cleared up. We can stop the rattling of the sabres. Wink

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"mixed blue wool jeancloth" as was used in the 1840's military uniform.

Maybe I should have put the words military uniform in quotes, as the militias of the period known as "The Long Peace" (1816-1845) weren't particularly military and anything but uniform! It's a great period to study and portray*, as those who showed up at militia musters wore everything from civilian workclothes to shakos and well-cut tailcoats -liberally peppered in gilt buttons. While some militia coats are true beauties, others are so shoddy that they wouldn't pass muster at a school play.

Looking back at Dulcie's original question, I guess I'm just assuming that she's looking for wool jean which was common for the period. As to what Levi Strauss was producing in terms of cotton jeancloth -I'm clueless.  I haven't seen a surviving pair in any museum or book.
                  -Tom

*If anyone's interested in this fascinating period of er, uh..."military" history, I strongly recommend the bi-annual 1830's Militia Muster at Old Sturbridge Villiage. A friend best described it as a "reenactment of a reenactment" with sham battles, rounders games, striped pigs and other forms of general revelry, but this is a subject for another thread.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2007, 12:44:18 PM »

 Grin I was just asking for jean cloth lol. Ive had some requests actually for boys sack coats made from jean cloth, I was working on giving a price, and needed to know where to find the jean cloth.. and what prices, so I could come up with my asking price. Thats all.  Still havent figured out where Im going to order from, havnet heard back from the requestee.
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