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Carol Boomershine
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« on: October 01, 2007, 02:17:01 PM »

  I'm not sure if this has already been discussed, but has anyone found a source for a knitted sontag ("bosom buddy") pattern besides the one in Kathleen York's books?  Your discussion of winter wear has gotten me thinking that a new one would be a great fall/winter knitting project!  Thanks in advance,
     Carol Boomershine (in east-central Iowa, where it gets very cold and snowy!) Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2007, 02:38:25 PM »

  Oops!  I just did a search of past posts and discovered a whole thread on my very topic!  Best to look before posting, I guess!  But, is it possible to make a sontag more like a front-opening vest, rather than the shawl-like creature I already have?  Any thoughts would be most welcome.
     Gratefully,
     Carol Boomershine Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2007, 02:39:36 PM »

Carol,

     If you go to http://www.raggedsoldier.com/, under Needlework, Necessities, and Novelties there should be a link to a Bosom Buddy or Sontag pattern.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 02:43:06 PM »

There's one on the Ragged Soldier site.  http://www.raggedsoldier.com/  Along the side go to Needlework Necessities and Novelties.  You'll find the link there.  I've made it up twice, now.  For myself, I found I needed to add in more blocks and knit a few more rows.  I am a bit "fluffy". 
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 02:46:48 PM »

  Thanks, both of you - already visited the sutlery- but it's almost the same one I have.  My objection is to the wrap-around style, or is that the only way they were made?
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 06:02:02 PM »

  Thanks, both of you - already visited the sutlery- but it's almost the same one I have.  My objection is to the wrap-around style, or is that the only way they were made?
     Carol

That is the most predominant pattern, and the one most seen in period magazines, books, and even images. However, there is another pattern that shows one that buttons up the front, and yet falls loose on the sides...  I don't have it handy right now, but I would suggest joining the cwneedleworkers yahoo group, as we have it archived there, and have discussed it as well.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 07:25:31 PM »

And in case you're like me don't know how to knit, here is a one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Repro-Dress-Sontag-or-Bosom-Buddy-4-Civil-War-Reenactor_W0QQitemZ110175916487QQihZ001QQcategoryZ36041QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 08:13:38 PM »

Thanks, Colleen - that's more what I had in mind.  I love the warmth, and the way one's arms are free, but it's the look I don't care for.  I'll try the needleworkers group.
   Gratefully,
   Carol
P.S. to Maria - I do, in fact, know how to knit, but thanks for the info!
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2007, 08:47:20 AM »

What about a quilted one in a vest ish shape?
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 02:31:30 PM »

Bevin, what a good idea!  I'm also a quilter - that fiber thing, again!!
    Carol Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 02:57:07 PM »

Thanks, Colleen - that's more what I had in mind.  I love the warmth, and the way one's arms are free, but it's the look I don't care for.  I'll try the needleworkers group.
   Gratefully,
   Carol
P.S. to Maria - I do, in fact, know how to knit, but thanks for the info!

I know Polly would not mind my posting an image of her sontag that is based on this pattern: http://www.geocities.com/col90/NewPicture.JPG.  This is based on a pattern from Petersons', in Feb. 1859.  Here is the original picture: http://www.geocities.com/col90/sontag.JPG.

As mentioned before, we have discussed and helped to translate the pattern on the cwneedleworkers list.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 10:19:51 AM »

Thanks for the reference - I'll post a picture when I finally get one finished.  Maybe I'll figure out a way to combine the features of all of them - I can always claim to be a "fashion-forward" woman!!
    Carol
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2007, 11:37:57 AM »

Oh, good !  Then you can start mine!

tee hee........ Grin
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 08:00:54 PM »

Carol,

   I just found this one, http://tinyurl.com/yo26o8. Is this more what you had in mind?

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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2007, 10:09:19 PM »

That's super-nifty!

I wish I could knit.   Embarrassed
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2007, 05:48:16 AM »

Carol,

   I just found this one, http://tinyurl.com/yo26o8. Is this more what you had in mind?

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That's great, but if you're going this direction, don't call it a sontag..this is a "spencer", a sweater type garment (although fitted, not loose)....we're still into knitted goods to keep the body warm, but this is a whole different category.

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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2007, 01:55:46 PM »

Micaila - I think I have that very one in a book of several years' worth of Peterson's magazines (the title escapes me...), and I don't care if we call it a sontag, a waistcoat, or a porkpie hat  Grin, if it will serve the purpose, I'll make it!!
    Carol
P.S. To K - now that I think on it, isn't mine the one you made?? Huh  (If I figure it out, I might just get two done!) Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2007, 03:57:04 PM »

Micaila - I think I have that very one in a book of several years' worth of Peterson's magazines (the title escapes me...), and I don't care if we call it a sontag, a waistcoat, or a porkpie hat  Grin, if it will serve the purpose, I'll make it!!
    Carol
P.S. To K - now that I think on it, isn't mine the one you made?? Huh  (If I figure it out, I might just get two done!) Cheesy

"Civil War Ladies: Fashion and Needle-Arts of the Early 1860's". Is that the book your talking about? It's pinky purple. I have it too and I believe it has a waist coat or spencer or whatever it is called in it.

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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2007, 05:55:39 AM »

When you go to the above link to the NYPL, click on the details below the image. Then click on "sweaters". There are several interesting & warm knitted items there.

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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2007, 05:40:07 PM »

When you go to the above link to the NYPL, click on the details below the image. Then click on "sweaters". There are several interesting & warm knitted items there.

Anna


Very nice...and SOME of them are even pre-1865.

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