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Eileen Hook
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« on: July 26, 2007, 04:53:37 PM » |
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Does anyone have directions on how to make a church baby or pew baby doll? They were used to keep small children quiet during church services. Good for teething kids to chew on. The one I've seen had a cone-like head stuffed with polyfiber and then long strips hung from this and were braided into legs and arms. I've also seen them made of handkerchiefs. This is a good use for scrap cotton!
Thanks, Eileen
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2007, 05:09:11 PM » |
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Eileen, I've not seen anything on them for mid-19th century, unfortunately. I have a feeling that they may be an early 20th century thing, rather than mid-century. Did you come across a new reference?
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Sandy Whitlow
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2007, 05:41:17 PM » |
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I think that Ragged Soldier's "Rolled Fabric Doll" would answer nicely for a correct "quiet" play doll and is most appropriate for mid 19th century. I've seen a few photos of original roll up dolls and their's is right on the button!  Sandy
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 08:37:12 PM » |
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Church dolls are really neat looking and have a very charming story...
But...
The following is something Virginia prepared in answer to a similar question on another forum. I've cut and pasted that response into this reply.
I looked in the doll books that we have and did not find anything on handkerchief doll. In a web search, I found a number of web sites that say they were used in Revolutionary times, Civil War times, or mothers made them for little girls in church, but no one offered any primary documentation. Since these dolls would have been used, untied and remade, there were none shown in any of our antique doll books.
I also checked all the period girl's activity books, and the only dolls mentioned were either paper dolls, the rolled fabric dolls similar to the kits we offer in our catalogue and store bought dolls such as china or penny wooden dolls. Some of the books, as well as Godey's, give detailed directions on how to make doll clothes, but from those directions, it seems to indicate that the dolls were purchased. In "The Girl's Own Book" by Lydia Child (1834) the doll section just briefly described dolls, but more emphasis was placed on the value of dolls in a little girl's life.
The only close to period reference I found to handkerchief dolls was in the book, "The American Boys Handy Book" by Dan Beard which was published in 1882. The dolls used in this reference called for the dolls to be made and used in a parlour magic trick, rather than a plaything for little girls. Directions were given for rolling and folding the handkerchief into a doll. In the 1887 companion, "The American Girls' Handy Book" by Linda and Adelia Beard, did not have any directions for dolls except for cornhusk and flower dolls.
So we would love to see some primary period documentation for a church doll or handkerchief doll if anyone has any and could share it. Until then, I wouldn't do them at an event or promote them as a period appropriate activity, despite their attractiveness. And that advice really hurts because before we researched them ourselves, I'd learned to tie a lady doll, a man doll, and two babies in a cradle, each using a handkerchief or napkin. They really were cute! But I don't do them anymore.
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Eileen Hook
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2007, 09:28:27 PM » |
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Thanks for the help ladies - I haven't found anything new about church babies, I was just wondering if they were period and how to make them.
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Nona Nelson
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2007, 06:43:42 PM » |
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I find this really intersting...we have a "handkerchief doll" at kids outstation at the fort....
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2007, 06:52:44 PM » |
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It may be a good candidate for historical upgrade, Nona. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2007, 10:32:39 PM » |
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It may be a good candidate for historical upgrade, Nona.  I was just thinking that....I may have just called apon myself to make a rolled fabric doll.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 10:53:58 PM » |
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Eileen, I have several that I made up for Trader's Fair this last year. I sold a couple of them. I can bring one next LH if you want.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2007, 04:50:58 AM » |
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Vickie, did you come across some pre-1865 references to pew babies? None of the rest of us are finding anything about them earlier than the later 19th century/early 20th century--earlier references would be greatly appreciated!
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