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« on: November 24, 2015, 10:33:46 PM »

I will be making a simple black taffeta waist to be worn over a fine sheer bodice this December, and I have a question. What should I use for the lacing? I ran a search but only found these two posts on bodice lacing to be applicable:

http://thesewingacademy.org/index.php?topic=6926.msg100790#msg100790
http://thesewingacademy.org/index.php?topic=8795.msg124324#msg124324

What would have been used in the period? Silk ribbon; waxed cotton cord? Embroidery floss was mentioned as an option. I could twist and wax it, as with this buttonhole gimp.

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 07:03:09 PM »

I use narrow (1/8"-1/4") silk satin ribbon on my Swiss waist and ballgown bodice.  This original belonging to Katherine (sorry, forgot the last name) appears to lace with a cord, but it's not noted whether it's original to the garment.  Likewise, the originals at The Graceful Lady mostly seem to have cords--where any laces are still present--but they may or may not be original to the garment.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 09:02:28 PM »

Thank you so much. I think that I will go with a silk ribbon then.

I am curious, though, what the cords where made of in the period. Where they waxed cotton? Silk wrapped cotton?
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2015, 04:24:40 PM »

I think silk on a cotton core, but I haven't dissected one.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2015, 05:29:06 PM »

I've yet to come across an original cord that I would say was waxed in any way.  Most of them are a twisted silk or high sheen cotton cord.
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2015, 09:38:03 PM »

Thank you so much, ladies. I wonder if a cord like that could be found today . . .

Something to look into. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2015, 01:11:04 PM »

I have a different question relating to lacing, now. Is ribbon suitable for corset lacing? The reason I ask is Vogue Fabric (from whom I may order my supplies) has one cotton corset cord, but it doesn't look nearly as strong as the Canadian Farthingales one.

[whisper] I might use poly ribbon just until I can order better lacing . . . Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2015, 05:53:08 PM »

Corset lacing has a hair bit of give to it and its weave makes it pretty strong.  Ribbon won't hold up to the strain on pulling or the possibility of snagging on a stray bit of rough grommet.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2015, 07:06:19 PM »

Thank you, Mrs. Koenig; I didn't know that. Does anyone think the cord from Vogue will be strong enough? Their corset supplies are from Farthingales (US).
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2015, 04:47:35 PM »

If it's intended for corset lacing and it's from Farthingale's, I'd rely on it.

I don't know if it's period (or when it stopped being period) but 1/4" linen tape is also quite strong. I have to lace my 18th century stays much tighter than my 19th century foundations, and it works just fine. I have broken 1/4" cotton tape, though, so I wouldn't go that route! (FWIW... 1/8" poly satin ribbon is just about unbreakable. Desperation solution for a 17th century bodice that reduced me about 5".)
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2015, 04:58:38 PM »

Thank you so much! I hadn't thought of linen tape (something does say 18th century, though). I'll have to look for original references; I'd love to know more about what "they" used for lacing -- lacings don't seem to accompany their original garments as often as other things do. Smiley

I'm going to wear my corset mock-up for the first night at Ward Hall and reuse some of my short corset cord; that way, I can wait for the Farthingales supplies.

It's nice to know that the poly ribbon will work in a pinch Wink.
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